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Rate "The Unquiet Dead"

Post by The Co=Ordinator on Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:07 am

What did you make of the first non-RTD script of Nu-Who? Vote and have your say!


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Re: Rate "The Unquiet Dead"

Post by stanmore on Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:57 pm

Well, obviously the best Gatiss script in Whodom, and one that provided a 70s schlock nostalgia-rush (which, for whatever reason, seemed important at the time) after two weeks of RTD radicalism. I enjoyed seeing old fashioned fun scares on Saturday nights, even though I'm glad the modern Doctor Who only does it occasionally.

Of course, the part of The Unquiet Dead that raises the most controversy is its perceived anti-immigration message; the gelth are immigrants that want to do no good to their chosen destination. But I think the message is rather less controversial. Don't allow immigration if the immigrants are genocidal maniacs. Which to me is fair enough.
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Post by stanmore on Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:57 pm

4/5 BTW.
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Re: Rate "The Unquiet Dead"

Post by Zoltar on Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:46 pm

Simon Callow as Dickens was a big part of my enjoyment of this ep. The Gelth were excellent stand-ins for the supernatural and I liked their design. Chris and Billie seemed to be having a great time doing this episode. A good old fashoned spooky monster story. Oh, and well met Eve Myles. 4/5 from me.

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Re: Rate "The Unquiet Dead"

Post by barnaby morbius on Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:47 pm

a little bit unsatisfying- the resolution seemed a bit too pat. not bad though.

i'm a big charles dickens fan though so great to see him.
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Re: Rate "The Unquiet Dead"

Post by The Co=Ordinator on Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:58 am

I've given this 3/5, as it's not up to the standard of the first 2 and they both got 4. As we were to discover twice more, somehow Gatiss stories aren't as good as they *should be*, although there's still plenty to like here.

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Post by Johnstone McGuckian on Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:09 am

3 from me for the same reasons as C=O really. Gatiss' best by a long shot however.
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Re: Rate "The Unquiet Dead"

Post by Nick Barlow on Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:13 am

Yes, it is Gatiss's best, but that's truly damning with faint praise for me. Regardless of the anti-immigration theme - which I think is there, but unintentionally, as we've seen from other scripts and his own comments that Gatiss doesn't really think about the politics of his writing - it's not that giid a script, IMO. The problem (and 'School Reunion' suffers from the same issue) is that the supposed moral dilemma has been resolved before the titles - we've seen the Gelth kill someone for no reason and so it's only a matter of time before they reveal that they're bad, not a shocking revelation.

2/5 because it's not completely atrocious, and there are good performances in there, but it's gone down a lot in my estimation in hindsight, especially when we've seen what other writers can do with episodes set in the past.

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Re: Rate "The Unquiet Dead"

Post by The Browncoat Cat on Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:49 am

After loving Rose and being less than enamoured with The End of the World, I lapped this up at the time. I still enjoy it, but not as much as I used to. The Unquiet Dead is my favourite of the Gatiss historical stories, mainly because it ticks all the boxes. In other Gatiss historicals, niggling little details bring the whole thing down. I wonder what his contemporary offering later this year will be like?
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Re: Rate "The Unquiet Dead"

Post by Patrick on Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:01 pm

Packaged as it was as "one trip into the future, one trip into the past," I enjoyed this from the standpoint of re-acquainting audiences with the Doctor and Companion getting a chance to interact with famous historical figures. Simon Callow as Dickens was a very nice treat.

But there's always this lingering feeling that with a Gatiss script, it should have undergone one more round of editing to finish it off. There's just something lacking compared to the two stories that opened series 1 for me.

I give this a 3.

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Re: Rate "The Unquiet Dead"

Post by Dave Webb on Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:53 pm

The problem with The Unquiet Dead is that it needs to be a two parter.

Hence 3/5 from me. It's paced better than TIL, but I still have the feeling it wants to go on longer and spend a bit more time with the characters.

As an aside, I think the anti-immigration thing is a real stretch, I don't see it at all.

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Re: Rate "The Unquiet Dead"

Post by The Browncoat Cat on Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:26 pm

Dave Webb wrote:The problem with The Unquiet Dead is that it needs to be a two parter.
As do all of Gatiss's scripts for the series thus far.
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Post by Rich Flair on Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:45 am

I disagree - they should have all been half parters. 22 minutes.
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Re: Rate "The Unquiet Dead"

Post by Dave Webb on Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:25 am

Rich Flair wrote:I disagree - they should have all been half parters. 22 minutes.

22 minutes, but four of them?

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Post by Rich Flair on Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:05 pm

No, just the one.
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Post by stanmore on Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:10 pm

So no-one's keen on Gatiss as show-runner then?
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Post by Rich Flair on Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:18 pm

Yes, just not this show.
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Re: Rate "The Unquiet Dead"

Post by The Co=Ordinator on Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:35 pm

^ ^ ^

What Rich said.

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Post by Dave Webb on Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:05 pm

It won't happen, no matter how good Sherlock is.

We already know that there's someone waiting in the wings, a safe pair of hands, beloved of fandom in general, with the vision and the drive to carry the show forward into it's next fifty years.

Spoiler:
Could it be Sparacus?

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Post by Rich Flair on Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:40 pm

It must happen.
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Post by Patrick on Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:33 pm

Dave Webb wrote:It won't happen, no matter how good Sherlock is.

We already know that there's someone waiting in the wings, a safe pair of hands, beloved of fandom in general, with the vision and the drive to carry the show forward into it's next fifty years.

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Very smoothe, Dave.

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Post by The Co=Ordinator on Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:23 am

Rich Flair wrote:It must happen.


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