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Post by Sid Seadevil on Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:04 am

Zoltar wrote:That was a good episode. I liked how they adapted Bruce's origins to the seasonal theme.
Absolutely. In fact it yet again illustrated how, arguably, of all the Superheroes Batman's origin is the most open to adaptation and riffing on, due to its very core simplicity.

It's just as iconic as the massive legend which it effortlessly supports.
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Post by Zoltar on Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:07 pm

Sid Seadevil wrote:Absolutely. In fact it yet again illustrated how, arguably, of all the Superheroes Batman's origin is the most open to adaptation and riffing on, due to its very core simplicity.

It's just as iconic as the massive legend which it effortlessly supports.
Agreed. And the latest episode was quite good too, though I hear some Outsiders fans ain't happy.

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Post by Sid Seadevil on Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:40 pm

Zoltar wrote:Agreed. And the latest episode was quite good too, though I hear some Outsiders fans ain't happy.
I've just recently watched the episode in question, and while I can see why some of the more hardline purists aren't happy with the alterations, for me they worked - and more importantly - remained true to the spirit of the original.

The consistency of quality on this series is a joy to behold. There's obviously something inherent in the Batman character that lends itself to the creative animation process in a way which simply isn't true for other superhero adaptations.
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Post by Zoltar on Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:50 pm

Sid Seadevil wrote:I've just recently watched the episode in question, and while I can see why some of the more hardline purists aren't happy with the alterations, for me they worked - and more importantly - remained true to the spirit of the original.
Yeah, I personally think enough of the core of the characters survived to make them still enjoyable. I particularly liked Wildcat in that episode.

Sid Seadevil wrote:The consistency of quality on this series is a joy to behold. There's obviously something inherent in the Batman character that lends itself to the creative animation process in a way which simply isn't true for other superhero adaptations.
Batman seems to lend himself well to just about any format, particularly since his power can be adjusted to suit the nature of the world he's in. He's as perfectly at home being challenged by mere gangsters as he is dealing with big superpowered threats.

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Post by Sid Seadevil on Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:32 pm

Zoltar wrote:Yeah, I personally think enough of the core of the characters survived to make them still enjoyable. I particularly liked Wildcat in that episode.
Absolutely. Wildcat has always been one of my favourite characters, and R. Lee Ermey was perfectly cast as the character. He sounded remarkably as I always imagined Wildcat would.

Zoltar wrote:Batman seems to lend himself well to just about any format, particularly since his power can be adjusted to suit the nature of the world he's in. He's as perfectly at home being challenged by mere gangsters as he is dealing with big superpowered threats.
Indeed. The character is the perfect superheroic template. Timeless, yet still easily able to mould itself to the sensibilities of the day.

Great stuff.
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Re: Batman: The Brave and the Bold

Post by Zoltar on Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:50 pm

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Zoltar wrote:Yeah, I personally think enough of the core of the characters survived to make them still enjoyable. I particularly liked Wildcat in that episode.
Absolutely. Wildcat has always been one of my favourite characters, and R. Lee Ermey was perfectly cast as the character. He sounded remarkably as I always imagined Wildcat would.
Yep, the Gunny was an excellent choice. Heck, he's probably ready to put the costume on right now and go on patrol. Wink

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Re: Batman: The Brave and the Bold

Post by Sid Seadevil on Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:20 pm

And yet another fun adventure that managed to hit that free-wheeling 60's vibe with maximum accuracy and minimum effort. Deadman's character remained true to the original but suitably lightened for the younger section of the audience. Green Arrow and Speedy, had the wise-cracking repartee normally associated of the true "Dynamic Duo" of the period. While Batman was wonderfully, perfectly, Batman.

Highlights of the episode for me was Green Arrow's wickedly note perfect impression of the dark, driven Batman that the fans are overly obsessed with. But even better was the reaction of Speedy, who was playing host to the Caped Crusaders dispossessed spirit.

It's obvious the writers on this series are having an absolute whale of a time crafting these stories - and the real dividents are being reaped by the viewers.
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Re: Batman: The Brave and the Bold

Post by Zoltar on Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:58 pm

Sid Seadevil wrote:Highlights of the episode for me was Green Arrow's wickedly note perfect impression of the dark, driven Batman that the fans are overly obsessed with. But even better was the reaction of Speedy, who was playing host to the Caped Crusaders dispossessed spirit.
That was a great scene. I also enjoyed the final scene, where Deadman returns to aide the caped crusader in a fight. Snappy ending, lots of fun. Smile

I agree, another fantastic episode.

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Re: Batman: The Brave and the Bold

Post by Sid Seadevil on Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:15 am

Zoltar wrote:That was a great scene. I also enjoyed the final scene, where Deadman returns to aide the caped crusader in a fight. Snappy ending, lots of fun. Smile

I agree, another fantastic episode.
Yep. Oh and while I'm praising the it - especial praise once and for both Diedrich Bader's spot-on the nose Conroyesque Batman - and guest star Michael Rosenbaum's vocal realisation of Boston Brand/Deadman. It was about as far from his more familiar Lex Luthor, as it's possible toi imagine.
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Re: Batman: The Brave and the Bold

Post by Colin Hicks on Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:17 am

Just been watching these on YouTube, and they're incredibly good fun. I like how they cater to all generations of fans, with things like the Silver Age Green Arrow appearing in the same episode as the Jaime Reyes Blue Beetle. And to those who complain about them not being dark'n'gritty enough, I say: Tough. The Timmverse DCAU was amazing, and it's still there to be watched again, but it's nice that someone's willing to do a lighter Batman cartoon again, and make it work.

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Post by Zoltar on Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:04 pm

Sid Seadevil wrote:Yep. Oh and while I'm praising the it - especial praise once and for both Diedrich Bader's spot-on the nose Conroyesque Batman - and guest star Michael Rosenbaum's vocal realisation of Boston Brand/Deadman. It was about as far from his more familiar Lex Luthor, as it's possible toi imagine.
Indeed, the voice work has been consistently great in this series.

Spoiler:
And Kamandi? Didn't expect to see him. I liked the timey wimey scene where Batman left him a gift in the statue's nose. Very Happy

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Post by Zoltar on Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:06 pm

Doc Filth wrote:Just been watching these on YouTube, and they're incredibly good fun. I like how they cater to all generations of fans, with things like the Silver Age Green Arrow appearing in the same episode as the Jaime Reyes Blue Beetle. And to those who complain about them not being dark'n'gritty enough, I say: Tough. The Timmverse DCAU was amazing, and it's still there to be watched again, but it's nice that someone's willing to do a lighter Batman cartoon again, and make it work.
Glad you're enjoying it Colin. I hear we're going to be seeing the Ted Kord Beetle at some point too.

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Re: Batman: The Brave and the Bold

Post by Sid Seadevil on Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:42 pm

Zoltar wrote:
Doc Filth wrote:Just been watching these on YouTube, and they're incredibly good fun. I like how they cater to all generations of fans, with things like the Silver Age Green Arrow appearing in the same episode as the Jaime Reyes Blue Beetle. And to those who complain about them not being dark'n'gritty enough, I say: Tough. The Timmverse DCAU was amazing, and it's still there to be watched again, but it's nice that someone's willing to do a lighter Batman cartoon again, and make it work.
Glad you're enjoying it Colin. I hear we're going to be seeing the Ted Kord Beetle at some point too.
I'm also delighted you're enjoying it Colin. I'm even more pleased to hear we might be seeing Ted Kord's Beetle at some point.
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Post by Zoltar on Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:40 pm

Sid Seadevil wrote:I'm also delighted you're enjoying it Colin. I'm even more pleased to hear we might be seeing Ted Kord's Beetle at some point.
Looks like it could be this week's episode. Smile

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Re: Batman: The Brave and the Bold

Post by Sid Seadevil on Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:49 am

Zoltar wrote:Looks like it could be this week's episode. Smile
Oh, that'll be excellent if it is. Smile
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Re: Batman: The Brave and the Bold

Post by Colin Hicks on Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:51 am

Spoiler:
It is indeed, according to Wikipedia.
All I want now is a Blue Beetle/Booster Gold team-up...

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Re: Batman: The Brave and the Bold

Post by Sid Seadevil on Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:59 am

Doc Filth wrote:
Spoiler:
It is indeed, according to Wikipedia.
All I want now is a Blue Beetle/Booster Gold team-up...
Exactly what I suspect we're all hoping for.
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Re: Batman: The Brave and the Bold

Post by Zoltar on Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:16 pm

Sid Seadevil wrote:
Doc Filth wrote:
Spoiler:
It is indeed, according to Wikipedia.
All I want now is a Blue Beetle/Booster Gold team-up...
Exactly what I suspect we're all hoping for.
That'd be fantastic. I hope it happens. Very Happy

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Post by Sid Seadevil on Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:27 pm

Zoltar wrote:That'd be fantastic. I hope it happens. Very Happy
And of course the true beauty of the B&B concept both in comics as well as television, is that the character of Batman is so all-encompassing that it works perfectly matched with just about any other heroically fictional character imaginable.

Personally, I'd pay good money to see Bats paired with a cartoon version of...Jack Bauer!
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Post by Zoltar on Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:41 pm

Sid Seadevil wrote:Personally, I'd pay good money to see Bats paired with a cartoon version of...Jack Bauer!
Wow, now that'd be a team-up. The only problem is nothing short of an evil Chuck Norris could possibly challenge them. Wink

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Zoltar wrote:Wow, now that'd be a team-up. The only problem is nothing short of an evil Chuck Norris could possibly challenge them. Wink
An evil Chuck Norris driven insane by an accidental overdose of the Bane formular! Smile
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Post by Zoltar on Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:37 pm

Sid Seadevil wrote:
Zoltar wrote:Wow, now that'd be a team-up. The only problem is nothing short of an evil Chuck Norris could possibly challenge them. Wink
An evil Chuck Norris driven insane by an accidental overdose of the Bane formular! Smile
I wonder if the writer of Doctor McNinja accepts story submissions. We're almost there, we just need to add Raptors on hoverboards or something. Wink

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Post by Sid Seadevil on Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:52 pm

Zoltar wrote:I wonder if the writer of Doctor McNinja accepts story submissions. We're almost there, we just need to add Raptors on hoverboards or something. Wink
What an excellent suggestion. But they'd have to be insane Ninja Raptors on hoverboards, I think.
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Post by Zoltar on Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:02 pm

Sid Seadevil wrote:What an excellent suggestion. But they'd have to be insane Ninja Raptors on hoverboards, I think.
Quite right. *makes a note of this*

Does that mean we have to design ninja masks that can fit on a raptor. Oh, bother... Razz

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Re: Batman: The Brave and the Bold

Post by Sid Seadevil on Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:32 am

Zoltar wrote:[Quite right. *makes a note of this*

Does that mean we have to design ninja masks that can fit on a raptor. Oh, bother... Razz
But worth the effort in the end.

Especially when we see balding, overweight fans of our masterpiece costumed up as their heroes at conventions.

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