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Post by Lucy McGough Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:35 pm

Because we need a Being Human thread.
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Post by Aspadistra Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:52 pm

Damn. It's started again, and I've missed it, haven't I? Or at least, the series after the pilot has started.
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Post by Lucy McGough Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:57 pm

Do you have access to the iPlayer?
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Post by Aspadistra Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:13 pm

Good point! I keep forgetting that I have broadband, now.

Sometimes it works for me. Bit idiosyncratic, but worth a try. Thanks! Very Happy
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Post by Frank Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:04 pm

Being Human - Episode One review on the blog!
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Post by millerqueen Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:41 pm

it were fantiastic. end of
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Post by Sid Seadevil Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:01 pm

Kate and I really enjoyed this. The recasting only improved things from the pilot - and it's set fare to become even more interesting as the series progresses.

We suspect BBC3 have a hit on their hands - which means BBC2 will almost certainly pinch it off 'em.

Oh, and it's interesting that Toby Whitehouse has declared the aforementioned pilot not to be considered canon. Which I thought might prove problematical, given as how last night's opener was pretty much a direct continuation of it.
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Post by Lucy McGough Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:01 am

This is just SO good.
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Post by Sid Seadevil Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:13 am

Lucy McGough wrote:This is just SO good.
And actually, now I come to think of it - it isn't problematical at all. Last night's episode actually reworked aspects of the pilot as well as adding a new perspective; such as the introductory voice over, and the flashbacks.

Ergo: problem solved!
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Post by Frank Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:01 am

Potentially, a great little series. Glad this got through the commissioning stage whereas the decision to do 'Phoo Action' got reversed. Money, I assume?

As long as Russell Tovey keeps flashing his bum I will be a very happy viewer. Shallow, I know...but that's me.
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Post by Sid Seadevil Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:12 am

Frank wrote:Potentially, a great little series. Glad this got through the commissioning stage whereas the decision to do 'Phoo Action' got reversed. Money, I assume?

As long as Russell Tovey keeps flashing his bum I will be a very happy viewer. Shallow, I know...but that's me.
By all accounts a fair deal of money was squandered on the abortive "Phoo Action". In fact it would seem that they were actually quite advanced into the filming stage when it got the chop. It seems even before that it was common knowledge amongst the crew that the scripts simply weren't working.

Not our loss - the superior show rightfully made it to broadcast series.
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Post by Nick Barlow Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:35 am

I didn't see the pilot - I missed it when it was first on, then didn't track it down when I heard it was going to series as I didn't want another disappointment at things that never were (Global Frequency still hurts...)

Anyway, I thought it was very good - nice balance between humour, drama and horror, with a script and a director who know that horror is about the threat and the danger more than just showing buckets of blood and gore. The leads were all engaging and interesting, and Dean Lennox Kelly next week as well.

It'll probably end up on BBC Two soon enough enough, but it was interesting to see that it's credited as a BBC American co-production.

Now I want Toby Whithouse to be writing for Doctor Who again - to be honest, after this I'd much rather have him than than Neil Gaiman.
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Post by Dave Webb Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:49 pm

Saw it.
The pilot was good, and they've retained Russell Tovey which was really good news because - as I discussed with a friend t'other night - he's the sort of person who has an element of the puppy about him. Or at least that's waht he puts into his characterisation of George. He looks like he'd be perfectly safe, perfectly friendly. You wouldn't look at him twice. But pick the wrong night and...well.

Good stuff, and one to watch.
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Post by Frank Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:49 pm

Dave Webb wrote:he's the sort of person who has an element of the puppy about him. Or at least that's waht he puts into his characterisation of George. He looks like he'd be perfectly safe, perfectly friendly. You wouldn't look at him twice. But pick the wrong night and...well.

And he's got a lovely arse. Very Happy
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Post by Sid Seadevil Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:54 pm

Frank wrote:And he's got a lovely arse. Very Happy
And they said impartial television criticism was dead...

Wink Very Happy
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Post by Lucy McGough Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:41 am

I want to pick Russell Tovey up and cuddle him.
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Post by Sid Seadevil Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:54 am

Lucy McGough wrote:I want to pick Russell Tovey up and cuddle him.
Careful! Stray doggies have been known to bite.
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Post by Lucy McGough Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:10 am

But he looks so... forlorn Sad
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Post by Sid Seadevil Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:23 am

Lucy McGough wrote:But he looks so... forlorn Sad
Which is exactly why strays are at their most dangerous. Suspect
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Post by Lucy McGough Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:33 am

You're just being hardhearted. He can curl up in my basket any day.
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Post by Lee Carey Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:35 am

Never saw the pilot episode, but I watched this with Louise, and she had problems with it that I agree with. The biggest for me was the initial five minute monolog that was entirely unnecessary in a spoken narration by Paul McGann at the beginning of the TVMovie way. Everything said there was then reiterated in the next fifty or so minutes, and made it both superfluous and an admittance of a lack of faith in the viewer by the production team. It also would have served better as a piece to explain the boundaries of the supernatural on show- I've read Dracula, so I know that Vampires can exist in daylight, yet no explanation exists on screen. Similarly, Louise pointed out that the methodology of vampirising a human remains confused, with the beginning suggesting that all you need do is bite and kill someone, and they'll become undead, whereas later on it suggests that the victim needs to bite the vampire soon. If it's the former, then you have the perennial problem in a vampire story where each victim would exponentially create new vampires until there were no humans left to feed on.

Louise's biggest problem, though, was with the main female character, which she thought was badly written, and resorted to clichés once to often (and, in particular, the time of the month joke, which she feels no woman would actually say in that way).

I had less of a problem with this, but I did find it odd that the most submissive character (by her supernatural power) was a woman.

My biggest problem was with the marketing of this as a sitcom, whereas it was actually a black comedy, and had very few belly laughs. Much of the charm for me lies in Russell Tovey, who is superb in the role, playing every beat for real, and really selling the terror of his werewolf transformation.

All in all I found it flawed but enjoyable, and will certainly watch next weeks.
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Post by Starfighter Pilot Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:14 pm

I just watched it and really enjoyed it too. Smile And as a counterpoint to Russell's bum, I would like to note that the ghost and the two girlfriends were all absolute cuties.
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Post by Ginger Ninja Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:50 pm

Best tv show on tv. (At the moment)
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Post by Dave Webb Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:04 pm

Frank wrote:And he's got a lovely arse. Very Happy

You're not the only person to have told me this. I'm thinking that The Arse of Tovey is probably the 4th leading character in that production.
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Post by Dave Webb Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:18 pm

Lee Carey wrote:I had less of a problem with this, but I did find it odd that the most submissive character (by her supernatural power) was a woman.

I didn't find it odd at all.

Any way you look at it, not every female character can be a strong, interesting person. There genuinely are inept dishrag women out there. Given that the subject matter, as Lucy McG gives an alternate view on her excellent blog - which not enough people read. Click the link, read, come back.

So, as Lucy indicates, it might be that each character has been set something to work against and that the real story, rather than vampires taking over the world, will be about three people taking over their own lives. Hence the title. And hence the weak female, who is going to develop eventually into someone much stronger with time. If she starts out strong, where does she go from there?
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