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Post by barnaby morbius Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:15 am

cor dear...that was pretty bad. colin and nicola bryant awful and unlikable, poor guest cast(except brian glover), maurice colbourne wasted, terrible music, and a stupid, convoluted storyline that has eric saward and ian levine arguing over who wrote it.

a couple of uninspiring documentaries- the one on cybernetics had me nodding off- makes this a far from essential release.

save your pennies people
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Post by Graymalkin Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:54 am

I have no idea what this story was actually about - possibly my brain made a desperate attempt to escape the seemingly-endless tedium by forcing itself into a coma halfway through. Or maybe there was actually no plot, purpose, or point to this putrid pile of pants.

No worse than a lot of other Baker Cs, mind you.

Troughton out of ten. Barely.


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Post by Patrick Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:06 am

Didn't Attack of the Cybermen win a UK Gold vote as the best story of the Colin Baker era?

That's hard to believe, when Vengence on Varos, Mark of the Rani and Revelation of the Daleks were options.
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Post by stanmore Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:10 am

Some decent directional flashes, otherwise very very poor. Like Resurrection and Timelash it's one of the very few stories where neither the brain nor the heart is the right place...
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Post by barnaby morbius Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:12 am

Patrick wrote:Didn't Attack of the Cybermen win a UK Gold vote as the best story of the Colin Baker era?

That's hard to believe, when Vengence on Varos, Mark of the Rani and Revelation of the Daleks were options.

poor colin must go down as the doctor with the worst stories- only "revelation of the daleks" stands out.

he's not a bad actor or anything i just find his doctor very difficult to warm to and in "attack of the cybermen" i'm afraid he's particularly hammy and unlikable.
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Post by The Co=Ordinator Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:37 am

barnaby salton wrote:save your pennies people

Too late, very unusually for a new releasemine is already en-route. Shocked
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Post by Ginger Ninja Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:11 am

Ginger love attack.
that sums me up.
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Post by barnaby morbius Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:15 am

Ginger Ninja wrote:Ginger love attack.
that sums me up.

leo- what are your views on the stories "kinda" and "snakedance"? Fifth Doctor Wink
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Post by andrea Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:26 pm

barnaby salton wrote:save your pennies people
Well, I have always intended to save them when it came to this one... affraid Smile
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Post by The Co=Ordinator Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:01 pm

barnaby salton wrote:leo- what are your views on the stories "kinda" and "snakedance"? Fifth Doctor Wink

He's never seen them, and while he lives in this house never will. Razz

Oh, and I'm not going to vote on "Attack" until the DVD arrives and I've watched it: even though I must have watched it far too many times over the past 24 years. Very Happy
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Post by Zoltar Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:07 pm

The Co=Ordinator wrote:Oh, and I'm not going to vote on "Attack" until the DVD arrives and I've watched it: even though I must have watched it far too many times over the past 24 years. Very Happy
I'm holding off on voting till I have a look at the DVD too. Fortunately, I have not seen it far too many times over the last several years. Wink
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Post by barnaby morbius Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:43 am

Ginger Ninja wrote:Ginger love attack.
that sums me up.

ginger love attack- i think i bought that dvd
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Post by Rich Flair Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:00 am

The Co=Ordinator wrote:Oh, and I'm not going to vote on "Attack" until the DVD arrives and I've watched it: even though I must have watched it far too many times over the past 24 years. Very Happy

You've watched it twice?
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Post by The Co=Ordinator Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:08 am

A lot more than that...........
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Post by Dave Webb Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:18 pm

The Co=Ordinator wrote:A lot more than that...........

Me too. I keep thinking "It can't be as bad as I remember..."

Attack is why, if I ever have fans, I will never, ever listen to them or attempt to make them happy.

Colin Baker and Nicola Bryant are hampered by costumes, a vague attempt at enticing fans by "fixing the chameleon circuit", there's an utterly pointless rebellion by a couple of blokes working in a quarry, the cybermen themselves are as hard as rice pudding...the whole thing is a load of convoluted bollocks and an attempt to make Doctor Who "edgy" and "gritty", which fails.

I loathe it.
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Post by Rich Flair Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:37 pm

Last time i tried to watch it I got as far as the Doctor nearly falling down a hole in the junkyard with some comedy nearly-falling-down-hole music.
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Post by barnaby morbius Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:11 pm

Rich Flair wrote:Last time i tried to watch it I got as far as the Doctor nearly falling down a hole in the junkyard with some comedy nearly-falling-down-hole music.

that's the best bit!
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Post by sparacus Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:21 pm

5 definitely. It was a superb & thrilling opening to season 22. I enjoyed rewatching it on DVD yesterday.
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Post by Dave Webb Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:18 pm

sparacus wrote:5 definitely. It was a superb & thrilling opening to season 22. I enjoyed rewatching it on DVD yesterday.

I'm glad someone enjoyed it.
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Post by The Co=Ordinator Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:32 am

Still waiting for my DVD to arrive........
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Post by The Co=Ordinator Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:21 am

Well it finally arrived, and The Ninja & I have now watched Attack.

I think this story is far better than generally perceived and gave it 4/5. It many ways it reminds me of a Second Doctor Story, and that's not just because of the whole Telos thing. I like the Cryons - yes honest guv, there's loads of Cyber destruction and some excellent performances - Colin, Maurice Colbourne and the brilliant Brian Griffiths to name but three.

So give it a break you old curmudgeons - I bet you're the ones who give Kinda & Snakedance an awesome 10/10! Razz
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Post by Dave Webb Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:34 pm

I think my biggest single objection is the sub-plot the two slaves. Not only does that whole thing make the Cybermen look crap, but they're killed for no reason turning the entire thing into a huge waste of time.

I know RTD likes to melt characters, but generally there's a point to the melting. Here, I just couldn't see it. Unneccessary nihilism doesn't make something dark, gritty, edgy or adult.
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Post by Johnstone McGuckian Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:41 pm

4/5

It does have its faults and it does look shoddy in places but overall it's a great story that isn't as alienating as some may claim. It was also my first ever story so I have a natural soft spot for it.
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Post by The Co=Ordinator Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:04 pm

Dave Webb wrote:Unneccessary nihilism doesn't make something dark, gritty, edgy or adult.

I would agree, and have never claimed that any of these characteristics apply to Attack. Ultimately, despite its obvious shortcomings, I just happen to like it a lot, and consider it far superior to many other stories. Wink
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