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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by Zoltar on Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:29 pm

Sid Seadevil wrote:Yes it has undoubtedly. I say that without an instants hesitation.
Yikes. Very Happy Well, I guess I'll steer clear of it.

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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by Sid Seadevil on Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:57 pm

You're doing yourself a big, big favour, mate. Run...run and don't look back! Very Happy
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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by Sid Seadevil on Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:01 am

So, the burning question on everybody's lips is: Oi, Patrick! What did you think of last night's episode?
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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by Patrick on Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:17 am

Sid Seadevil wrote:So, the burning question on everybody's lips is: Oi, Patrick! What did you think of last night's episode?

Well, it was awful. That part is obvious. But I have to comment that I don't think we saw the same episode- what I watched last night involved Hannah Spearritt coming to be the resident zookeeper, and Andrew Lee Potts finding an old nerd buddy and working with him to find some monster that was roaming around the docks.

I kept waiting for Alexander Siddig to have his "get me outta here!" moment, and it never came.

Nevertheless, I've seen enough to know that BBC-America's "Supernatural Saturday" for 2011 is off to an underwhelming start. How many episodes does this series of Primeval have? I may just find something else to watch until it's run it's course.

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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by Sid Seadevil on Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:24 am

Oh, that's very odd indeed. You definitely saw a very different episode to what was broadcast here yesterday evening. One that I certainly haven't seen yet.

There's seven (very odd number) episodes to this new series.

Update: I've just done some checking and it appears what you saw last night was episode 2, while we here in the UK saw episode 3? I've absolutely no idea what the hell that's all about.
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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by Patrick on Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:34 am

Sid Seadevil wrote:Oh, that's very odd indeed. You definitely saw a very different episode to what was broadcast here yesterday evening. One that I certainly haven't seen yet.

There's seven (very odd number) episodes to this new series.

Update: I've just done some checking and it appears what you saw last night was episode 2, while we here in the UK saw episode 3? I've absolutely no idea what the hell that's all about.

So you're a week ahead of us. Grand- I still have Dr. Bashir's break the fourth wall moment to look forward to.

Seven weeks of this takes us into mid-February, schedule-wise.

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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by Sid Seadevil on Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:41 am

Well now you'll just have to keep watching, if only for next week. I'm still puzzled by the seven week schedule. It's a very odd number indeed. Usually we'd be looking at either a six or eight episode series.
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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by Nick Barlow on Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:56 pm

ITV showed two episodes on the first weekend - one on the Saturday, one on the Sunday.

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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by Sid Seadevil on Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:00 pm

Well, thanks Nick. That explains that. (And is actually more exciting than anything that's happened in the series itself so far).
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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by Sid Seadevil on Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:59 am

OUCH!

Just 3.7 million tuned in for Saturday's third episode, which means it couldn't even win its slot over BBC1's Total Wipeout.

If this trend continues even the shifting of filming to Ireland to cut down on production costs won't be enough to garner them a commission for a next series.
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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by stanmore on Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:05 am

I know Primeval's not all that great - but to be humiliated in the ratings by "hehehe! they're falling in the water!"?
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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by Sid Seadevil on Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:10 am

I know...even I take no pleasure in that news. Primeval might currently be a diabolical attempt at drama - but it is an attempt.
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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by Elliott H. Seadevil on Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:17 pm

There is really bad graphics on the dinosaurs
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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by Sid Seadevil on Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:37 pm

Elliott H. Seadevil wrote:There is really bad graphics on the dinosaurs
And the acting and writing is even worse!
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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by John the Vic on Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:47 pm

Having read all the posts in this thread, I must say I'm a bit disappointed because I have liked Primeval throughout its 3 and a bit series, Yes seriously.. Ok, so it's not as good as Doctor Who, and probably never will be.. It's almost as good as Torchwood, at least for some of its episodes.. But contrary to the experience of most of the previous posters, I have enjoyed every episode, and was absolutely gutted when they cancelled it two years ago..and overjoyed when it was announced it was coming back.. I can't wait for episode four.. Smile
Incidentally, the strange seven episode series is meant to be the first half of series four, with the second half comprising six episodes being screened next year; in a similar fashion to the 2011 series of Doctor Who, and it was apparently planned that way from the outset..
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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by Sid Seadevil on Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:01 am

Don't get my wrong John, while it was never DW standard I did actually enjoy the first three series with all its faults. But the producers have I feel, seriously dropped the ball with the new series. A big part of the problem is that they seem to have jettisoned the shows own established internal logic along with the characters who actually worked. Add that to the laziness of not even attempting to hide the shows move of production location - Irish number plates on some of the vehicles, the Wicklow Mountains magically transporting themselves into the landscape of south of the river London, lack of people in location scenes, etc - and the the problems become glaring and threaten to shatter the suspension of disbelief.

And that's even before dreadful dialogue, new characters who lack any genuine motivations and often sub par performances.

Of course, as always, it all comes down to personal perception. If the show continues to work for you, that's great, I'm delighted somebody is getting enjoyment out of it. What frustrates me is that from my perspective, a show that can and did work is now being endangered by an ill-advised meddling with its core structure that could seriously endanger its continued viability.

But thanks for standing up for the show - it's always good to hear from somebody who's still actually enjoying it. Plus, your post forced me to actually don my serious critical hat and articulate exactly what and why it isn't working for me. So kudos to you, old fellow. Smile
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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by John the Vic on Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:14 am

Yes indeed Sid, I agree with you in some ways, especially the removal of some of the characters that worked.. It may be a loose parallel, but in some ways that part has worked against it in a similar sense to how the removal of Owen, Tosh, and especially Ianto has done with Torchwood, as also with the "ill-advised meddling with its core structure" although we do of course have to see how the new series is accepted or not as the case may be when it is aired.. To be honest I hadn't noticed the Irish plates, but can understand it might be a point to detract for some viewers.. It's good to don a serious critical hat sometimes, as talking about what we like or dislike, and why, is part of how we enjoy the show we watch, whatever it may be..
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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by Sid Seadevil on Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:42 am

It's nice to see even though we're coming at this from opposing viewpoints, we have managed to identify the common ground we both occupy, John. I would like to give the producers the benefit of the doubt (in fact I'm perfectly willing to do so) about how the overall arc of the new series is intended to go. But sadly, there is that real danger now that by not ensuring a carry over of quality from previous series they've actively endangered their own intentions.

That 3.7 million rating for last week's episode is genuine cause for concern. Particularly given ITV's current, less than patient shall we say, outlook on under performing shows.
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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by Elliott H. Seadevil on Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:08 am

The affects are rubbish
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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by John the Vic on Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:59 pm

I loved tonight's episode.. Smile
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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by Sid Seadevil on Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:15 pm

Yes, it was actually much better than the previous weeks. I'm still rather dumbstruck that Hannah is still giving the most consistent performance of the younger cast members though.
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Post by John the Vic on Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:17 pm

Yes indeed, I thought she was rather good tonight.. There was a lot of chasing around corridors, but it was good..
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Post by Sid Seadevil on Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:48 pm

And of course, anything where a kid gets scoffed by a monster always, if you'll pardon the pun, goes down well.

My nephew Elliott certainly though so at least.
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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by Patrick on Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:14 pm

Episode 3 (the one Sid described so vividly last week) airs over here tonight- in about 4 hours, actually. I'm debating whether or not to watch it.

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Re: Primeval - New Series

Post by Sid Seadevil on Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:19 pm

Watch it Patrick. You owe it to the rest of us who already have.
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