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Battlestar Galactica
With the imminent arrival of this superb series final season, it's long passed time we had a dedicated thread.
So, we're here - it's here: what are we waiting for!
So, we're here - it's here: what are we waiting for!
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A three part catch up is now on my blog. The review of the next episode Sometimes A Great Notion will be up later tonight.
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I've only seen the pilot and the first series. As soon as I can get my husband to take the sleeping powder, I'll see series 2.
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Well, I was going to review it. But...it took forever for the episode to torrent and it's on Sky tonight anyway. Duh. Review tonight instead!
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I promise you it's worth the wait, Frank.Frank wrote:Well, I was going to review it. But...it took forever for the episode to torrent and it's on Sky tonight anyway. Duh. Review tonight instead!
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WOW...
that is all.
that is all.
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Told you.millerqueen wrote:WOW...
that is all.
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I must confess to binging often on the many delights of BSG.... it continually surprises - just when you think you've got it sussed WHAM!
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Sid Seadevil wrote:I promise you it's worth the wait, Frank.Frank wrote:Well, I was going to review it. But...it took forever for the episode to torrent and it's on Sky tonight anyway. Duh. Review tonight instead!
I have been spoiled, so I know the major revelations. Doesn't bother me. I am still really looking forward to it.
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A pox on BSG spoiler merchants. Tis the one series I actively go out of me way to avoid spoilered for. It's just too damned good to have the shocks even slightly diluted.Frank wrote:I have been spoiled, so I know the major revelations. Doesn't bother me. I am still really looking forward to it.
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Sid Seadevil wrote:A pox on BSG spoiler merchants. Tis the one series I actively go out of me way to avoid spoilered for. It's just too damned good to have the shocks even slightly diluted.Frank wrote:I have been spoiled, so I know the major revelations. Doesn't bother me. I am still really looking forward to it.
But you already know what's going to happen!
If you've paid an attention to the series thus far, you can work out what's going to happen as each major plot point arrives. The formula is simple -
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Would the resolution of this plot point lead to any character becoming in any way happy?
If Yes, deal Crushing Defeat Regardless of Logic. If no, resolve logically.
You only have to look at some of the things that have happened in the past to see this in action. For example, the Apollo/Starbuck thing. Apollo declares his love for Starbuck and the two of them share a wonderful evening on a beach. Then Starbuck sneaks off and marries Anders because being with Apollo would make her happy. In revenge, Apollo marries Dualla and commits himself to becoming a depressed porker while Starbuck and Anders get drunk and get tattoos.
...what?
So, for example, you can work out that if Starbuck has been promised the answer to a question that has haunted her for ages, the answer will do her absolutely no good and will only make her less happy. If she'd spent a couple of episodes trying to decide whether she preferred Latte over Expresso, the eventual answer that she had become allergic to caffiene and was thereafter forced to drink used sump oil in order to fulfill the misery quotient.
I'm thinking of compiling all of the little defeats the various characters have suffered into one volume. I might call it "Gravitas's Rainbow".
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Now reviewed on the blog. Good episode. Stupid bloody ending. I can't wait for another 45 minutes of BSG misery next week. I predict, this series will have an unhappy, ambiguous ending.
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Isn't that what we watch BSG for?
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well, that and Katee Sakhoff
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millerqueen wrote:Isn't that what we watch BSG for?
Of course. It's the most depressing programme on telly. Worth it for Jamie Bamber and James Callis tho. And I do like to have fun with how grim it all gets.
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Agreed on all counts. Plus it's a genuine pleasure to see such a consistently high quality of grimness near unremittingly sustained across four full seasons.Frank wrote:Of course. It's the most depressing programme on telly. Worth it for Jamie Bamber and James Callis tho. And I do like to have fun with how grim it all gets.
Forget Babylon 5. As much as I enjoyed that - it's this that's the closest thing to a truly "adult" science fiction novel for television that we're ever likely to get.
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Sid Seadevil wrote:Forget Babylon 5. As much as I enjoyed that - it's this that's the closest thing to a truly "adult" science fiction novel for television that we're ever likely to get.
Jeez, Sid. Is that your idea of "grown up" - an unweeded garden that grows to seed? A flat, depressing tidal plain of dirge and horror? Even Bergman had his lighter moments. Even Kafka occasionally cracks a smile. It might be compelling TV, but it's because the audience is pulled along by the obsessions of a couple of the characters who have an almost childish need to get their own way.
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And there aren't instances of real life mirroring that, Dave? There's lighter moments there too - you must have noticed them, surely?Dave Webb wrote:Jeez, Sid. Is that your idea of "grown up" - an unweeded garden that grows to seed? A flat, depressing tidal plain of dirge and horror? Even Bergman had his lighter moments. Even Kafka occasionally cracks a smile. It might be compelling TV, but it's because the audience is pulled along by the obsessions of a couple of the characters who have an almost childish need to get their own way.
And at it's core there's always that faint glimmer of hope. It's grim and pessimistic - much like the situation they find themselves in - but there's an under current of humanity, and a touch of warmth struggling to survive too.
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Sid Seadevil wrote:And there aren't instances of real life mirroring that, Dave? There's lighter moments there too - you must have noticed them, surely?
And at it's core there's always that faint glimmer of hope. It's grim and pessimistic - much like the situation they find themselves in - but there's an under current of humanity, and a touch of warmth struggling to survive too.
I have not noticed lighter moments. I was hopeful for
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- Chief Tyrol and Cally
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- Chief Tyrol found out he was a Cylon, Cally went nuts and one of the other Final Five spaced her resulting in Tyrol browbeating Admiral Adama into demoting him.
I was equally hopeful for
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- Baltar's little religious group because despite them edging into dodgy Branch Davidian territory they did at least seem at peace, which was just an excuse to show other Galactica people beating them up and threatening to kill Baltar...again...
and for a while it looked like Baltar might be another source of joy when he tried to
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- convert a Centurion to his way of belief, but that was shortly before an explosion which blew up the Centurion and wounded Baltar, thus giving Roslin the opportunity to allow Baltar to bleed to death. Although in fairness she did save him, because she didn't want to die without being able to love.
And then there's all the scenes with the pilots getting drunk, which is always tinged with a bit of desperation. Although there was that pilot who
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- confronted Starbuck about being a screwup and elevated herself until they both expressed mutual respect, which was great until said pilot overdosed on stimulants and died horribly
I suppose you could count
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- Baltar and his Internal Six, because watching someone tortured by mental illness is always a laff riot - did you notice how she went away when he got over his guilt? Yeah, in his head all the time. Baltar's crazy.
I do wonder, though, if the whole thing is one massive setup to
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- the biggest left-field crossover ever, in which we find out that Starbuck is actually the 12th Doctor and that her Viper is a War-Tardis
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A Disquiet Follows My Soul review now up on the blog!
UK viewers - beware spoliers!
UK viewers - beware spoliers!
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Another fine review, old chap. As for the musings onFrank wrote:A Disquiet Follows My Soul review now up on the blog!
UK viewers - beware spoliers!
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- Gaeta motivations
The webisodes should be available at all good torrent sites.
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This just gets better and better. I know it's grim but it's also full of great - laugh out loud moments.
It's also nice to have some telly that doesn't treat it's viewers like imbeciles.
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- Think of the look Sol and Lee share when Adama and Roslin have a good old pash - hilarious, what that man can do with one eye to convey expression is just priceless
It's also nice to have some telly that doesn't treat it's viewers like imbeciles.
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The whole Zarek/Gaeta coup d'etat plot was wound up a little quicker than I expected. I thought it had another week to run. However I am in awe of Ronald D. Moore and the writing team on Battlestar Galactica. I have no idea how it will finish, and having remained Spoiler Free, I cannot wait to find out.
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In just about any other show the entire Zarek/Gaeta coup d'etat plot would have been needlessly dragged out for at least four to six episodes. Here's it's treated with a breathtaking economy of storytelling that effectively highlights central concerns and reinforces major underpinnings of the overarching plot and the importance of certain characters to it.The Browncoat Cat wrote:The whole Zarek/Gaeta coup d'etat plot was wound up a little quicker than I expected. I thought it had another week to run. However I am in awe of Ronald D. Moore and the writing team on Battlestar Galactica. I have no idea how it will finish, and having remained Spoiler Free, I cannot wait to find out.
The quiet but firm reaffirmation of Adama and Roslin being strong surrogate parents to both the human and Cylon factions under their charge being especially well handled.
This really is a quite superb piece of televisual drama. And not just from a genre viewpoint.
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