Re: The Comic Thread

by Bonsai.Talker Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:16 pm

Zoltar wrote:Welcome to X-Men Forever, o gentle reader, hope you survive the experience.

Anyone read the first issue of Claremont's new X-timeline? I liked the art. The story? Well, it proves you don't need a TARDIS to travel back to the 90s.

Hee, I'm looking forward to hearing all your thoughts about that. Very Happy

by seiscat Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:05 pm

I liked IDW Autopia. It is very Who-ish, but too short!
I really like Kelly Yates' artwork.

by Sid Seadevil Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:42 pm

Zoltar wrote:Welcome to X-Men Forever, o gentle reader, hope you survive the experience.

Anyone read the first issue of Claremont's new X-timeline? I liked the art. The story? Well, it proves you don't need a TARDIS to travel back to the 90s.

Oh God...

Have the 90s now officially become nostalgia?

Whatever became of my regard for Claremont's X-Men work?

Bring back Don McGregor and Gene Colan on Nathaniel Dusk and Ragamuffins, I say.

Now that's nostalgia.

by **Zoltar** Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:43 pm

Sid Seadevil wrote:Oh God...

Have the 90s now officially become nostalgia?

Whatever became of my regard for Claremont's X-Men work?

I read the second issue today. The plot's...rather similar to the first actually. The art's still good though.

by Sid Seadevil Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:51 pm

Zoltar wrote:I read the second issue today. The plot's...rather similar to the first actually. The art's still good though.

I suppose I'll have to check it out - for the art if nothing else.

Is it just me - or are there too many things X in the Marvel universe for me to work up any real enthusiasm these days?

by **Zoltar** Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:57 pm

Sid Seadevil wrote:I suppose I'll have to check it out - for the art if nothing else.

Is it just me - or are there too many things X in the Marvel universe for me to work up any real enthusiasm these days?

There are many, yes. I definitely think they need to cut down on the X-groups a bit. Drop a book, maybe trim the line-ups of the various teams.

by Sid Seadevil Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:04 am

Zoltar wrote:There are many, yes. I definitely think they need to cut down on the X-groups a bit. Drop a book, maybe trim the line-ups of the various teams.

That would make sense to me. It would also make practical business sense for the company itself in the long run too, I'd imagine.

Surely such a complex and convoluted series of interconnected titles ultimately runs the risk of putting off potential new readers from jumping on board. Although having said that, I've been out of the comic loop for a long, long time; is the industry surviving in the main on an ageing readership - or is there a healthy influx of new blood to carry it through comfortably?

by **Zoltar** Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:05 pm

Sid Seadevil wrote:That would make sense to me. It would also make practical business sense for the company itself in the long run too, I'd imagine.

The trouble is they see X as a brand or franchise, and feel X-books (or Wolverine, or Wolverine-related like Deadpool) will attract more sales than a new title. That having been said, they are testing a lot of new titles with the "Dark Reign" event.

Sid Seadevil wrote:Surely such a complex and convoluted series of interconnected titles ultimately runs the risk of putting off potential new readers from jumping on board.

I've heard many times that people find it too convoluted to follow, yep.

Sid Seadevil wrote:Although having said that, I've been out of the comic loop for a long, long time; is the industry surviving in the main on an ageing readership - or is there a healthy influx of new blood to carry it through comfortably?

Depends on who you ask. The folks I see at my local shop are all around my age. Something like X-Men Forever is certainly more for existing fans than any young readers. I'd certainly hope there's new readers coming into the fold.

by Sid Seadevil Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:32 am

Zoltar wrote:The trouble is they see X as a brand or franchise, and feel X-books (or Wolverine, or Wolverine-related like Deadpool) will attract more sales than a new title. That having been said, they are testing a lot of new titles with the "Dark Reign" event.

I see. Hmmm...I'll keep me eyes peeled for the "Dark Reign" event. Thank for the tip.

Zoltar wrote:Depends on who you ask. The folks I see at my local shop are all around my age. Something like X-Men Forever is certainly more for existing fans than any young readers. I'd certainly hope there's new readers coming into the fold.

Which pretty much tally's with what I see when I pop in occasionally to my local FP. Plenty of older buyers - many of them with children. But the kids appear to be more interested in the action/figures/merchandise than the comics themselves. Which I find a rather worrying sign.

by **Zoltar** Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:41 pm

Sid Seadevil wrote:I see. Hmmm...I'll keep me eyes peeled for the "Dark Reign" event. Thank for the tip.

I'm not always a fan of the big "event" crossovers but I've enjoyed this one so far.

Sid Seadevil wrote:Which pretty much tally's with what I see when I pop in occasionally to my local FP. Plenty of older buyers - many of them with children. But the kids appear to be more interested in the action/figures/merchandise than the comics themselves. Which I find a rather worrying sign.

Licensing for figures/merch certainly does nab the comic companies a lot of cash though. The Big Two both have lines for younger readers (Marvel Adventures and Johnny DC) that tend feature self-contained stories rather than lengthy multi-episode plotlines. Of the two, I've only read a few of the Marvel Adventures issues. They are fun, I hope they're reaching their target audience.

by Lucy McGough Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:03 pm

I was a regular at my local comics store when I was a kid, but nowadays I can't afford them so I just read synopses online.

by **Zoltar** Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:30 pm

Did I read recently that you're a Kyle Rayner fan, Lucy? My favorite GL has always been Kilowog. Smile

by Lucy McGough Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:51 am

Zoltar wrote:Did I read recently that you're a Kyle Rayner fan, Lucy? My favorite GL has always been Kilowog.

I shall forgive you for that. Tony Ingram claimed that the One True Lantern was Guy Gardner and I managed not to murder him Wink

I also have a soft spot for poor old John Stewart.

by barnaby morbius Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:53 am

i think guy gardner had similar political views to tony ingram.

by Lucy McGough Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:02 am

Did Guy Gardner keep rabbits?

by **Zoltar** Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:18 am

Lucy McGough wrote:I shall forgive you for that. Tony Ingram claimed that the One True Lantern was Guy Gardner and I managed not to murder him

I also have a soft spot for poor old John Stewart.

Oh, I like several of them. Jordan, Arisia, Katma Tui, John Stewart and Kyle. Kilowog just happens to be my fave. And I've grown to like Guy as well, I think he's mellowed a bit. Maybe Batman knocking him on his butt did some good. Wink

by Bonsai.Talker Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:23 am

May I say...

Agents of Atlas is made of awesome! Very Happy

Oh and I have a new man of my life (#875241000148756²): Green Arrow. Very Happy

I adored the art of both of these comics. Smile

Just a question though: how many the heck are there Gorilla/Men is this bloody Comic World? Razz

by **Zoltar** Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:40 pm

Bonsai.Talker wrote:May I say...

Agents of Atlas is made of awesome!

You may and should. Very Happy

Bonsai.Talker wrote:Oh and I have a new man of my life (#875241000148756²): Green Arrow.
I adored the art of both of these comics.

Yep, Green Arrow rocks. Particularly when teamed with Hal Jordan. My sister's a fan too, even has a little statue of him.

Bonsai.Talker wrote:Just a question though: how many the heck are there Gorilla/Men is this bloody Comic World?

You'll find this article interesting. Razz

by Bonsai.Talker Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:12 pm

Zoltar wrote:
You may and should.

Then I say it: Agents of Atlas is made of awesome!!! Razz

Zoltar wrote:
Yep, Green Arrow rocks. Particularly when teamed with Hal Jordan. My sister's a fan too, even has a little statue of him.

I love that woman. Very Happy

Zoltar wrote:
You'll find this article interesting.

Thankee Wikiman!

by **Zoltar** Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:48 pm

So...anyone else excited about the recent news? Marvel Comics has acquired Marvelman. cheers

by barnaby morbius Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:22 am

Zoltar wrote:So...anyone else excited about the recent news? Marvel Comics has acquired Marvelman.

great- should i sell my moore/totleben issues now?

by **Zoltar** Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:28 am

barnaby salton wrote:great- should i sell my moore/totleben issues now?

I dunno, it's not been confirmed whether those issues will now be reprinted. Though I think Marvel would be silly to acquire MM and not reprint them.

by barnaby morbius Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:30 am

Zoltar wrote:
barnaby salton wrote:great- should i sell my moore/totleben issues now?
I dunno, it's not been confirmed whether those issues will now be reprinted. Though I think Marvel would be silly to acquire MM and not reprint them.

i'm sure they will some of moore's best work. although #15 must be one of the most violent comics i've ever read Shocked

by **Zoltar** Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:45 pm

barnaby salton wrote:i'm sure they will some of moore's best work. although #15 must be one of the most violent comics i've ever read

Indeed, some intense visuals there. But they still have the Marvel "Max" line for adult stuff, I suppose they could use that if they were worried it was too much.

by **Dave Webb** Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:39 pm

Zoltar wrote:Indeed, some intense visuals there. But they still have the Marvel "Max" line for adult stuff, I suppose they could use that if they were worried it was too much.

Moore won't write it, so I have no doubt they will shoe-horn it all into Marvel continuity somehow. On the other hand, this could mean reprints and since I no longer have any of my Miracle/Marvelman stuff, I might get a shot at owning it again.

I wonder if Gaiman might be persuaded to pen a run?

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