Rate "Day of the Moon"

Zoltar wrote:He looked uneasy and nervous to me, just not to a comic degree. Showing him with visible sweat would be silly.

Yes, not to the 'comic degree' of unease that he exhibited in real life. Likewise for the sweating, but to be fair he did sweat more profusely under TV lights.

Having been somewhat disappointed with The Impossible Astronaut, I thought Day of the Moon was absolutely tremendous. It took us on a rollercoatser ride here, there and everywhere, resolving some plot points but creating more. And what a tremedous ending. 5/5 for me.

Rich Flair wrote:Yes, not to the 'comic degree' of unease that he exhibited in real life.

Doctor Who wasn't going for real life when he chatted about The Silence with his agent, codename: The Doctor. It was a lighthearted portrayal of Nixon and it's not the first time that's been done.

Rich Flair wrote:Likewise for the sweating, but to be fair he did sweat more profusely under TV lights.

Sure, but to add that to the show would be a bit much.

Rich Flair wrote:
Yes, not to the 'comic degree' of unease that he exhibited in real life. Likewise for the sweating, but to be fair he did sweat more profusely under TV lights.

You're not basing this on the one TV debate with Kennedy, are you?

Dave Webb wrote:You're not basing this on the one TV debate with Kennedy, are you?

That's not remotely his best showing, to be certain.

Zoltar wrote:

Dave Webb wrote:You're not basing this on the one TV debate with Kennedy, are you?

That's not remotely his best showing, to be certain.

Although proof of image over content: those who listened to the Kennedy/Nixon debate on the radio thought that Nixon came out the better. It was the tv viewers who thought more of Kennedy.

I thought the visual of Nixon far superior to last years Watchmen film (and I liked that film) and had no problems with his portrayal-- in fact I liked the way the Doctor and the Silents were held at least partly responsible for the paranoi that eventually brought him down. And always remember, Nixon was ahead in the polls, and seen as a relatively popular President (well, as much as Presidents can be popular!-). The Watergate affair and the whole plan to undermine his Democratic oppostion were totally unnecessary and Nixon was very much responsible for his own downfall because of it.

(Sources: Fear & Loathing on the Campaign Trail, All the Presidents Men (book and film) and Oliver Stone's Nixon, as well as conversations with various Republican supporters back in the 90's:-)

4/5 providing this isn't the start of David Lynch''s stint on Doctor Who. Weird can be good, but not every week.

Dave Webb wrote:You're not basing this on the one TV debate with Kennedy, are you?

No, I'm basing this on the Nixon's autobiography, and 'I Gave Them a Sword' by David Frost, amongst other books.

Johnstone McGuckian wrote:4/5 providing this isn't the start of David Lynch''s stint on Doctor Who. Weird can be good, but not every week.

Only worry when the dancing midget in the red suit begins speaking English in reverse, Johnstone.

Patrick wrote:

Johnstone McGuckian wrote:4/5 providing this isn't the start of David Lynch''s stint on Doctor Who. Weird can be good, but not every week.

Only worry when the dancing midget in the red suit begins speaking English in reverse, Johnstone.

Oh that. I see that every time I'm coming home from the pub.

Patrick wrote:

Johnstone McGuckian wrote:4/5 providing this isn't the start of David Lynch''s stint on Doctor Who. Weird can be good, but not every week.

Only worry when the dancing midget in the red suit begins speaking English in reverse, Johnstone.

And if The Doctor really starts liking his coffee.

So who's that Renfrew chap? He was wearing a bow tie. Is he the Dream Lord?

Rich Flair wrote:

Dave Webb wrote:You're not basing this on the one TV debate with Kennedy, are you?

No, I'm basing this on the Nixon's autobiography, and 'I Gave Them a Sword' by David Frost, amongst other books.

quietly adds these items to the 'must read' list

Ta.

Johnstone McGuckian wrote:4/5 providing this isn't the start of David Lynch''s stint on Doctor Who. Weird can be good, but not every week.

No danger of that. Next Week's Curse of the Black Spot looks like it is going to be a very traditional Doctor Who romp. From what I can see, if you replace the word "Base" with the word "Ship" in the infamous cliché and you more or less sum that story up.

The Browncoat Cat wrote:
No danger of that. Next Week's Curse of the Black Spot looks like it is going to be a very traditional Doctor Who romp. From what I can see, if you replace the word "Base" with the word "Ship" in the infamous cliché and you more or less sum that story up.

All your ship are belong to us?

...could be. Could be a comment about the online world of fic and fandom.

I'm in ur ship killin ur doodz?

...ah, now we're getting somewhere. That sounds like an infamous cliche a Who monster could really get behind.

Rich Flair wrote:So who's that Renfrew chap? He was wearing a bow tie. Is he the Dream Lord?

As others have noted, Renfrew seems like a riff on Renfield. I liked the fact that he repeatedly tried to leave himself messages to get the hell out of there and it still wasn't enough to make him disobey, pretty creepy.

Zoltar wrote:As others have noted, Renfrew seems like a riff on Renfield. I liked the fact that he repeatedly tried to leave himself messages to get the hell out of there and it still wasn't enough to make him disobey, pretty creepy.

Indeed. In many ways he was the most tragically human and sympathetic character in the entire story. The ultimate underlining of the threat that the Silence was to humanity.

But he had a bow tie. That must mean something?

Rich Flair wrote:But he had a bow tie. That must mean something?

That he was clearly a Southern gentleman - and Southern gentlemen favour bow ties?

Rich Flair wrote:But he had a bow tie. That must mean something?

He wears a bow tie now. Bow ties ar-

Nah, I'm not sayin' it.

Zoltar wrote:He wears a bow tie now. Bow ties ar-

Nah, I'm not sayin' it.

awwww go on, say it. You know you want to...

Sid Seadevil wrote:hat he was clearly a Southern gentleman - and Southern gentlemen favour bow ties?

As well as The Nation of Islam?

Zoltar wrote:

Rich Flair wrote:But he had a bow tie. That must mean something?

He wears a bow tie now. Bow ties ar-

Bow ties artificially prolong lifespan? Why didn't anyone tell me?

Sid Seadevil wrote:awwww go on, say it. You know you want to...

Must resist catchphrase meme!

stanmore wrote:Bow ties artificially prolong lifespan? Why didn't anyone tell me?

Well, that's why Jim the Fish wears one...