The All-New Spoiler Thread
+15
stanmore
Zoltar
Aspadistra
Johnstone McGuckian
Nick Barlow
Rich Flair
Simon Watkins
konstantin
barnaby morbius
The Browncoat Cat
Dave Webb
Tessellated Facsimile
andrea
Patrick
The Co=Ordinator
19 posters
Page 1 of 10
Page 1 of 10 • 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
The All-New Spoiler Thread
As filming for Series 7 is about to get underway, here's our all-new spoiler thread. If you don't like spoilers then don't read this thread!
The Co=Ordinator- Tony the CyberAdmin
- Number of posts : 11054
Age : 64
Location : On a box, in TC7, long long ago..........
Awards :
Registration date : 2008-11-03
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
The return of the yeti has seemingly been fairly well accepted for a while. Now it appears that 2 weeks location filming in Spain is to take place. Whether the two things are related - well, who knows?
The Co=Ordinator- Tony the CyberAdmin
- Number of posts : 11054
Age : 64
Location : On a box, in TC7, long long ago..........
Awards :
Registration date : 2008-11-03
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
Dang. I've always maintained a Yeti story in Colorado would be great fun.
Patrick- Fast-Living Admin
- Number of posts : 7957
Age : 57
Location : 5,900 feet above sea level
Awards :
Registration date : 2008-11-04
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
I think I read a post (by Rich?) about a week ago that indicated that the next series will consist solely of single episodes with no two-parters. Is that right or have I got it all wrong? Or dreamt it! It seems a bit odd if it is the case.
I'd like to see the yeti again. I wonder what twentyfirst century yeti will look like (assuming they are coming back). I don't imagine they'll look quite like the 1960s' version but I hope they won't be too wildly different. I remember they were rather scary, despite their somewhat absurd appearance!
I'd like to see the yeti again. I wonder what twentyfirst century yeti will look like (assuming they are coming back). I don't imagine they'll look quite like the 1960s' version but I hope they won't be too wildly different. I remember they were rather scary, despite their somewhat absurd appearance!
andrea- Justified and ancient
- Number of posts : 695
Age : 67
Location : Dundee
Awards :
Registration date : 2008-11-04
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
wouldn't Spain be a little warm for the Yeti?
Tessellated Facsimile- Properly wrinkly
- Number of posts : 213
Age : 36
Location : Trapped inside this stupid malfunctioning robot body. Don't any of you EVER read our signature?
Registration date : 2011-09-09
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
Tessellated Facsimile wrote:wouldn't Spain be a little warm for the Yeti?
That all depends on what sort of yeti you're talking about. There are lots of Yetilikes that allegedly live in various climates around the world.
Alternatively, it could be a story set in the heyday of cheap holidays to the costa del sol and we might see Yetis in knotted hanky headgear, sporting union jack shorts and menacing the locals.
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
ta for that. I'll google to find out more about the hot climate hairy fellas.Dave Webb wrote:That all depends on what sort of yeti you're talking about. There are lots of Yetilikes that allegedly live in various climates around the world.
now that I would pay - someone elses - good money to see!Dave Webb wrote:Alternatively, it could be a story set in the heyday of cheap holidays to the costa del sol and we might see Yetis in knotted hanky headgear, sporting union jack shorts and menacing the locals.
Tessellated Facsimile- Properly wrinkly
- Number of posts : 213
Age : 36
Location : Trapped inside this stupid malfunctioning robot body. Don't any of you EVER read our signature?
Registration date : 2011-09-09
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
Carry on Yeti Abroad?
Andrea, I believe that Moffat has said all epsiodes will be stand alone. A terrible move IMO, if true.
Andrea, I believe that Moffat has said all epsiodes will be stand alone. A terrible move IMO, if true.
The Co=Ordinator- Tony the CyberAdmin
- Number of posts : 11054
Age : 64
Location : On a box, in TC7, long long ago..........
Awards :
Registration date : 2008-11-03
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
Indubitably.The Co=Ordinator wrote:Andrea, I believe that Moffat has said all epsiodes will be stand alone. A terrible move IMO, if true.
Some stories are too big or important to be told in just a single eppy. Plus, I'd have thought two part story's help ensure the peeps watching return the next week to find out what happens. Or have I missed something?
I'm beginning to think that mebbe I preferred the way the fella before Moffat did things.
Tessellated Facsimile- Properly wrinkly
- Number of posts : 213
Age : 36
Location : Trapped inside this stupid malfunctioning robot body. Don't any of you EVER read our signature?
Registration date : 2011-09-09
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
On the whole I tend to agree.
The Co=Ordinator- Tony the CyberAdmin
- Number of posts : 11054
Age : 64
Location : On a box, in TC7, long long ago..........
Awards :
Registration date : 2008-11-03
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
Didn't he say that all stories start off as single episode commissions, and only the stories with enough meet in them will then be extended to a two episode commissions.The Co=Ordinator wrote:Andrea, I believe that Moffat has said all epsiodes will be stand alone. A terrible move IMO, if true.
The plus side to this is that there will be no more padded out stories that were commissioned as two parters, but simply don't have the legs to carry that much screen time, or stories that really needed to be two parters but were only commissioned as one shots. For example Victory of the Daleks would have been much better two parter, whilst Hungry Earth / Cold Blood would have worked better as a single episode.
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
Yay! We are of a single mind.The Co=Ordinator wrote:On the whole I tend to agree.
Tessellated Facsimile- Properly wrinkly
- Number of posts : 213
Age : 36
Location : Trapped inside this stupid malfunctioning robot body. Don't any of you EVER read our signature?
Registration date : 2011-09-09
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
Well if he did say that, and that is the system they used, then it was still flawed. Cos we still ended up with some two parters that didn't have the "meat" in them to carry the length.The Browncoat Cat wrote:Didn't he say that all stories start off as single episode commissions, and only the stories with enough meet in them will then be extended to a two episode commissions.
See...flawed system. Meebe I'm looking at this wrong - but it seems to me that the best possible two part story would be a story that was designed and intended to be that way from the beginning.The Browncoat Cat wrote:The plus side to this is that there will be no more padded out stories that were commissioned as two parters, but simply don't have the legs to carry that much screen time, or stories that really needed to be two parters but were only commissioned as one shots. For example Victory of the Daleks would have been much better two parter, whilst Hungry Earth / Cold Blood would have worked better as a single episode.
[/justify]
I don't get how you can look at a bunch of proposals for single eppy stories and basically just jab a finger at some of them and say "yeah - those will work better as two parters".
-Don't know nearly enough about the technical side of things. If I'm being stupid, ignore me-
Tessellated Facsimile- Properly wrinkly
- Number of posts : 213
Age : 36
Location : Trapped inside this stupid malfunctioning robot body. Don't any of you EVER read our signature?
Registration date : 2011-09-09
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
Tessellated Facsimile wrote:Yay! We are of a single mind.
As opposed to simple mind..........
The Co=Ordinator- Tony the CyberAdmin
- Number of posts : 11054
Age : 64
Location : On a box, in TC7, long long ago..........
Awards :
Registration date : 2008-11-03
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
If memory serves, the Moff's comments on this issue of the two parters came down to money. There's apparently always been a belief that a couple of two part stories per season saved on the budget, due to the fact that fewer sets had to be constructed, and fewer location shoots had to be scheduled. However, when he took at a look at the actual production expenditures, he found that there was, in fact, no real savings being realized.
Patrick- Fast-Living Admin
- Number of posts : 7957
Age : 57
Location : 5,900 feet above sea level
Awards :
Registration date : 2008-11-04
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
Tessellated Facsimile wrote:Well if he did say that, and that is the system they used, then it was still flawed. Cos we still ended up with some two parters that didn't have the "meat" in them to carry the length.The Browncoat Cat wrote:Didn't he say that all stories start off as single episode commissions, and only the stories with enough meet in them will then be extended to a two episode commissions.
As I said, it is essentially to stop this sort of thing happening in the future. Although Patrick is of course correct, there is no practical saving between a single episode story and a double episode story. I have never understood the reasoning behind this myth. They might need to build less sets, but they still have to pay actors and crew the same amount of money per episode. I should imagine that the writer gets more for a two part script as well.
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
Well everything everyone's said makes sense. I suppose we won't really know how wise going with single episode story's are until we get the chance to actually see them. But I still think it's an odd decision.
Tessellated Facsimile- Properly wrinkly
- Number of posts : 213
Age : 36
Location : Trapped inside this stupid malfunctioning robot body. Don't any of you EVER read our signature?
Registration date : 2011-09-09
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
Well, if that is what he meant, it sounds like rather a good idea for the reasons you give. I would regret a deliberate loss of all two parters but if the idea is to have as many, or as few, two parters as seems appropriate once initial drafts of stories are submitted or, er, whatever (yes, I am getting more than a little vague on the technicalities here!) it could work really well.The Browncoat Cat wrote:Didn't he say that all stories start off as single episode commissions, and only the stories with enough meet in them will then be extended to a two episode commissions.The Co=Ordinator wrote:Andrea, I believe that Moffat has said all epsiodes will be stand alone. A terrible move IMO, if true.
The plus side to this is that there will be no more padded out stories that were commissioned as two parters, but simply don't have the legs to carry that much screen time, or stories that really needed to be two parters but were only commissioned as one shots. For example Victory of the Daleks would have been much better two parter, whilst Hungry Earth / Cold Blood would have worked better as a single episode.
andrea- Justified and ancient
- Number of posts : 695
Age : 67
Location : Dundee
Awards :
Registration date : 2008-11-04
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
As I understand it, under RTD, and previously under Mr Moffatt as well, the writer is given the germ of the idea and how many episodes he or she had to expand it into.andrea wrote:Well, if that is what he meant, it sounds like rather a good idea for the reasons you give. I would regret a deliberate loss of all two parters but if the idea is to have as many, or as few, two parters as seems appropriate once initial drafts of stories are submitted or, er, whatever (yes, I am getting more than a little vague on the technicalities here!) it could work really well.The Browncoat Cat wrote:Didn't he say that all stories start off as single episode commissions, and only the stories with enough meet in them will then be extended to a two episode commissions.The Co=Ordinator wrote:Andrea, I believe that Moffat has said all epsiodes will be stand alone. A terrible move IMO, if true.
The plus side to this is that there will be no more padded out stories that were commissioned as two parters, but simply don't have the legs to carry that much screen time, or stories that really needed to be two parters but were only commissioned as one shots. For example Victory of the Daleks would have been much better two parter, whilst Hungry Earth / Cold Blood would have worked better as a single episode.
Now, the way I would do it is only be given the germ of the idea and send the writers away to plot out their episode. Most writer might come back saying that their first draft runs for forty five minutes sweet as a nut. Maybe a writer will say their first draft is sixty-five minutes, but will play down to forty-five. Fine says I, go and finish your first draft. One writers will say their first draft is running at eighty minutes and maybe longer. Another might say they have got the perfect two parter, both episodes forty five minutes. They would also be told to go off and write their first draft. The final writer might say that they have written a five part mini-series with spin-off potential. He or she would be told to try and write a two episode first draft, and the script editor would be put on stand-by.
The fun really starts when the first draft comes in. If I am lucky, then I will have seven single episode stories and three two parters. I would probably end up with five filmable single episode stories, one story that needs bulking up, one heavily padded two episode story, one filmable two episode story and a bloated two episode that needs filleting.
So, by the time I had finished my two episode story, and all the arc stuff that needs to be finessed into the other stories, I would have the second drafts from my writers, that would consist of seven single episode stories and two double episode stories, in other words the usual make-up of a series of Doctor Who.
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
Nowadays they over-commission stories. Cornell for sure had a full script for (IIRC) Series 5.
The Co=Ordinator- Tony the CyberAdmin
- Number of posts : 11054
Age : 64
Location : On a box, in TC7, long long ago..........
Awards :
Registration date : 2008-11-03
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
They need more scripts from Cornell in the series. He's brilliant!The Co=Ordinator wrote:Nowadays they over-commission stories. Cornell for sure had a full script for (IIRC) Series 5.
Tessellated Facsimile- Properly wrinkly
- Number of posts : 213
Age : 36
Location : Trapped inside this stupid malfunctioning robot body. Don't any of you EVER read our signature?
Registration date : 2011-09-09
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
45 minutes of Victory of the Daleks was more than enough for me.
i have a really good "spoiler" but unfortunately i can't tell anyone!
i have a really good "spoiler" but unfortunately i can't tell anyone!
barnaby morbius- What about moi computer?
- Number of posts : 1609
Age : 51
Location : Location Location
Awards :
Registration date : 2008-11-03
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
Any news if they are planing for cybermat babies in s7?
.
.
konstantin- Justified and ancient
- Number of posts : 2074
Age : 69
Location : Durham, NC USA, Sol3
Awards :
Registration date : 2008-11-03
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
That is awesome konstantin.
Aargh!
Well filming is underway and it looks like Mark Williams is on location.
I've been speculating that the Spanish filming could be in Almeria. Mini-Hollywood is based there (visited it and the Indiana Jones location some 20 years ago) and would make an ideal location if they were going to do a 'Western' episode. If BBC America are putting some money into the production budget, then that becomes more likely.
Rob Cavazos will be appearing in the Spanish shoot.
barnaby morbius wrote:i have a really good "spoiler" but unfortunately i can't tell anyone!
Aargh!
Well filming is underway and it looks like Mark Williams is on location.
I've been speculating that the Spanish filming could be in Almeria. Mini-Hollywood is based there (visited it and the Indiana Jones location some 20 years ago) and would make an ideal location if they were going to do a 'Western' episode. If BBC America are putting some money into the production budget, then that becomes more likely.
Rob Cavazos will be appearing in the Spanish shoot.
The Co=Ordinator- Tony the CyberAdmin
- Number of posts : 11054
Age : 64
Location : On a box, in TC7, long long ago..........
Awards :
Registration date : 2008-11-03
Re: The All-New Spoiler Thread
Mark Williams on location this morning.
Could he be playing Rory's father?
Could he be playing Rory's father?
The Co=Ordinator- Tony the CyberAdmin
- Number of posts : 11054
Age : 64
Location : On a box, in TC7, long long ago..........
Awards :
Registration date : 2008-11-03
Page 1 of 10 • 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
Similar topics
» The TV Thread
» The Primeval Thread
» The Film Thread
» The Book Thread
» The rather inevitable Top 20 Thread
» The Primeval Thread
» The Film Thread
» The Book Thread
» The rather inevitable Top 20 Thread
Page 1 of 10
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
|
|