These Are The Voyages...Movie Trek

With the new Star Tek film looming within sensor range I thought it would be a fine idea to give it and it's predecessors their own home.

So, sound Red Alert, raise shields and prepare for in-coming posts!

*strikes heroic Kirk pose*

I'm very much looking forward to the new movie, in particular what Zachary Quinto does with Spock. On the face of things, it's an inspired piece of casting. But why has it been put back again, this time to May 2009? I know they said the original delay was becuase it was "so good" that it should be a Christmas blockbuster. Could this be a concern?

Anyway looking quickly at the franchise, the even number rule still rings true. My personal top three, in order of release, are "Wrath of Khan", "The Voyage Home" and "First Contact".

I imagine it's been delayed for the same reason the latest Harry Potter film has been put back: because last years writers strike. Most films were rushed into production to avoid this problem, but instead it has created a different one, which is there is now a sizeable gap opening up between those films that were ready to go before the writers strike and are now, for all intents and purposes completed, and those that were started after the writers strike.

Harry Potter is the only blockbuster Warner Bros film has on its short term schedule at the moment, hence its delay to the summer, otherwise they'd have nothing available. And I imagine Paramount are in the same boat.

Lee Carey wrote:I imagine it's been delayed for the same reason the latest Harry Potter film has been put back: because last years writers strike...

Pretty much so Lee. In fact the strike actually appears to have worked in Trek's favour, since it allowed J.J. Abrams to work in his own down time soothing out small character and plot problems which he'd have been forced to go ahead and film but for the strike.

The Co=Ordinator wrote:I'm very much looking forward to the new movie, in particular what Zachary Quinto does with Spock.

Quinto appears to have been born specifically so he would be the right age at this time to play Spock - and the ever excellent Karl Urban, (who prior to this film I'd more than once suggested as a possible Kirk himself), seems to have somehow nailed McCoy for me without having seen anything but still images.

I'm genuinely excited about the possibilities of this film.

My own favourites are Search for Spock, Voyage Home and First Contact. Plus that bit in whichever one it was (either Nemesis or Insurrection) where Worf claims not to have met Gilbert and Sullivan. I do love Worf.

I remember going to a special preview of Voyage Home, in Leicester Square, on a Sunday morning. My then boyfriend had told me we were going to see...something or other Something I wasn't mad keen to see but was prepared to tolerate. And all over the foyer were posters of The Voyage home which was opening in about 2 weeks time and I was all 'I sooooooo want to see that! Why haven't we got tickets yet' etc etc, and then before the film began they were playing the soundtrack, and I just thought they were doing a bit of subliminal advertising for their next big attraction, and then the lights went down................. That was a Good Day.

Sid Seadevil wrote:

Lee Carey wrote:I imagine it's been delayed for the same reason the latest Harry Potter film has been put back: because last years writers strike...

Pretty much so Lee. In fact the strike actually appears to have worked in Trek's favour, since it allowed J.J. Abrams to work in his own down time soothing out small character and plot problems which he'd have been forced to go ahead and film but for the strike.

I think the delay is down to Paramount seeing the rushes and deciding they'd make more money by shifting the film into a summer release. They were so impressed by it and felt confident to up the film's status. The Writer's Strike only marginally affected the production, I believe, and I think Abrams was pleased that he got a lot more time to get the characters right and do a bit more shooting. Plus ILM have benefited in getting more time for FX.

I'm quietly excited by the film. I've loved the images that have been littering the internet over the last month. There are some publicity shots that do make Spock and Kirk look like they're made out of wax but I can forgive that.

Frank wrote:I'm quietly excited by the film. I've loved the images that have been littering the internet over the last month. There are some publicity shots that do make Spock and Kirk look like they're made out of wax but I can forgive that.

Ahhh yes. The rapidly becoming infamous "Airbrushed Spock" shots I've seen a few of. Unnecessary and pointless. Quinto looks uncannily enough like Nimoy without them attempting to unduly pretty him up.

First actual photo of the new movie's Enterprise can be found by clicking here!

Not bad: very much indebted to the ST:The Motion Picture version, but more streamlined and, most importantly, featuring the return of the domed front to the nacelles!!!

Lee Carey wrote:First actual photo of the new movie's Enterprise can be found by clicking here!

Not bad: very much indebted to the ST:The Motion Picture version, but more streamlined and, most importantly, featuring the return of the domed front to the nacelles!!!

<Random rabid Fan>The neck connecting the Saucer section to the engineering hull is set too far back! Or it's the wrong shape...or something...whatever - [b]THEY'VE RAPED MY CHILDHOOD!!!</Random Rabid Fan>

<Me>Verrryyyyyyy nice.</Me>

Sid Seadevil wrote:

Lee Carey wrote:First actual photo of the new movie's Enterprise can be found by clicking here!

Not bad: very much indebted to the ST:The Motion Picture version, but more streamlined and, most importantly, featuring the return of the domed front to the nacelles!!!

<Random rabid Fan>The neck connecting the Saucer section to the engineering hull is set too far back! Or it's the wrong shape...or something...whatever - [b]THEY'VE RAPED MY CHILDHOOD!!!</Random Rabid Fan>

<Me>Verrryyyyyyy nice.</Me>

Sidney, so accurate. TrekMovie.com, which is a terrific little site, is now full of rabid fans all screaming for Abrams blood. They make the Cursed Earth on DWF look like a coffee morning. Myself, I'd like to see some more images. It looks interesting...

Frank wrote:Sidney, so accurate. TrekMovie.com, which is a terrific little site, is now full of rabid fans all screaming for Abrams blood. They make the Cursed Earth on DWF look like a coffee morning. Myself, I'd like to see some more images. It looks interesting...

Must admit I'm hardly surprised that my little skit turns out to be that close to the truth, Frank. There's little in the myriad universes of fandoms than a rabid Trek fan enraged.

I'm with you, while I'm quite taken with the first look at the redesign, I'll need to see more shots before before I can reach a definitive conclusion of whether it works for me personally or not. But it is definitely looking interesting.

Lee Carey wrote:featuring the return of the domed front to the nacelles!!!

They're the wrong size.

Seriously, though, it looks good - it has the air of something properly bolted together and looks like a real spacecraft.

Nick Barlow wrote:

Lee Carey wrote:featuring the return of the domed front to the nacelles!!!

They're the wrong size.

Seriously, though, it looks good - it has the air of something properly bolted together and looks like a real spacecraft.

My thoughts as well.

(On the ship design, not the domed nacelles... although, thinking about it...)

*snicker*

I've just been reading some posts on another forum where they're getting all bent out of shape by the new look Enterprise's secondary hull being, like, "totally out of proportion" ...

*snicker*

Sid Seadevil wrote:*snicker*

I've just been reading some posts on another forum where they're getting all bent out of shape by the new look Enterprise's secondary hull being, like, "totally out of proportion" ...

*snicker*

What did I tell you! Mad bitches those 'Star Trek' fans. I mean you wouldn't catching any of us arguing over the size of the TARDIS windows would you!

[quote="Frank"]

Sid Seadevil wrote:What did I tell you! Mad bitches those 'Star Trek' fans. I mean you wouldn't catching any of us arguing over the size of the TARDIS windows would you!

That was actually the immediate thought that came to my mind when I came across the post. Of course, the irony is that both sets of fans would be equally appalled to be likened to the other.

[quote="Sid Seadevil"]

Frank wrote:

Sid Seadevil wrote:What did I tell you! Mad bitches those 'Star Trek' fans. I mean you wouldn't catching any of us arguing over the size of the TARDIS windows would you!

That was actually the immediate thought that came to my mind when I came across the post. Of course, the irony is that both sets of fans would be equally appalled to be likened to the other.

Very ironic isn't it. Fans are just the same across all genres. They are resistant to change.

Frank wrote:Very ironic isn't it. Fans are just the same across all genres. They are resistant to change.

Except for us. Clearly we are the next evolutional step for fandom. Homo Wrinklyanus, or some such.

Here's a question germane to the discussion of the new Trek movie: William Shatner's outburst a couple of weeks ago about not being in the movie, even with a cameo- did it hurt or help the film?

I think it piqued curiousity. Besides, as they say in the biz, 'as long as you spell my name right, there is no bad publicity.'

Patrick wrote:Here's a question germane to the discussion of the new Trek movie: William Shatner's outburst a couple of weeks ago about not being in the movie, even with a cameo- did it hurt or help the film?

I think it piqued curiousity. Besides, as they say in the biz, 'as long as you spell my name right, there is no bad publicity.'

Oh, I suspect that not only did it help the movie - it knowingly helped the movie. Make know mistake, Shatner is a smart cookie - he's perfectly aware of what effect anything he says has on not only Trek fandom , but the wider media as a whole. By saying what he said, when he said it, he ensured the film got a much needed boost hype-wise and he got to play into his perceived Shatner persona at the same time.

A result for all concerned.

What a pity then that his homophobia got the better of him in his little spat with George Takei. A bit of bigotry to promote the film with, then?

Frank wrote:What a pity then that his homophobia got the better of him in his little spat with George Takei. A bit of bigotry to promote the film with, then?

What was that all about Frank? I must have totally missed it.

Lee Carey wrote:First actual photo of the new movie's Enterprise can be found by clicking here!

Not bad: very much indebted to the ST:The Motion Picture version, but more streamlined and, most importantly, featuring the return of the domed front to the nacelles!!!

Not bad at all. I look forward to seeing the ship in motion.

Sid Seadevil wrote:

Frank wrote:What a pity then that his homophobia got the better of him in his little spat with George Takei. A bit of bigotry to promote the film with, then?

What was that all about Frank? I must have totally missed it.

Oh, there's been a very antagonistic feud between the Shat and George. Couple of week's ago the Shat put up a rant about Takei on his blog, on video, and which of course then got out into the media. Essentially it's a bit of name calling about the fact that Takei didn't invite him to his wedding. But Takei and his partner have repeatedly said that they did invite him but he just didn't RSVP. The Shat turned round and called Takei 'sick' and 'psychotic' for not inviting him to the wedding. Takei does not like Shatner and it's not entirely clear if he did invite him or not. But, he does say that they wanted intimate friends at the ceremony. Shat is not Takei's 'friend' and vice versa. I think he invited Shat out of courtesy but never expected him to turn up.

Here's a snippet from the Defamer site - http://defamer.com/5066840/william-shatner-on-takei-wedding-snub-hes-a-psychotic-gay-bridezilla

Shatner is amusing and eccentric but it's clear from this he's lost the plot. His daughter seems to have been blessed with some sense. Enjoy. It's funny but there's definitely for me an unpleasant homophobic undercurrent going no.