Rate "The Big Bang"

Isn't there anything else in the world you could be doing? The world is bigger than GB. There are worse things than GB out there, but there are also better things.

It tells you what I think, I'm sorry if it bothers you so much.

DalekJim wrote:Hey, this melodrama's cheered me up to no end. Nice.

Can I have your email address, please? I'd like to talk to you. Or PMs on GB if you prefer.

Some posts cleared. Mine too.

Can we now all please be nice to each other and discuss The Big Bang, regardless of what you thought of it?

Johnstone McGuckian wrote:Some posts cleared. Mine too.

Can we now all please be nice to each other and discuss The Big Bang, regardless of what you thought of it?

Can I ask why you've removed insulting material directed toward yourself but not toward me?

Lucy McGough wrote:

DalekJim wrote:Hey, this melodrama's cheered me up to no end. Nice.

Can I have your email address, please? I'd like to talk to you. Or PMs on GB if you prefer.

I don't really like giving my email out on public forums because I got a few death threats from random strangers last year so it'll be PMs my dear.

DalekJim wrote:

Lucy McGough wrote:

DalekJim wrote:Hey, this melodrama's cheered me up to no end. Nice.

Can I have your email address, please? I'd like to talk to you. Or PMs on GB if you prefer.

I don't really like giving my email out on public forums because I got a few death threats from random strangers last year so it'll be PMs my dear.

Lee Carey wrote:

Johnstone McGuckian wrote:Some posts cleared. Mine too.

Can we now all please be nice to each other and discuss The Big Bang, regardless of what you thought of it?

Can I ask why you've removed insulting material directed toward yourself but not toward me?

If you have any problems, feel free to PM me. Otherwise please continue to politely discuss The Big Bang.

Thank you.

Umm...at the risk of starting something, I thought it was rather poor...and by borrowing the ending of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure to get the Doctor out of the Pandorica, there'll be a lot of people asking in the future why the Doctor can't travel back into the past to save himself every time now.

Oh dear. Such a load of nonsense.

OK folks, guess I'll have to watch this place instead of the footy. Lets discuss the episode in a civil manner.

Nick Barlow wrote:Umm...at the risk of starting something, I thought it was rather poor...and by borrowing the ending of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure to get the Doctor out of the Pandorica, there'll be a lot of people asking in the future why the Doctor can't travel back into the past to save himself every time now.

My excuse (or "fan-generated continuity," if you prefer) is that the Tardis exploding made time go wobbly, which temporarily negated the Blinovitch limitation effect. You can only travel back in time to save yourself in the aftermath of a Tardis explosion.

You've thought this one out very well Major Minor!

The Co=Ordinator wrote:You've thought this one out very well Major Minor!

I'm a fangirl. It's what I do

Anyway, makes sense that an exploding Tardis would make time go all weird and make normal rules not apply.

I thought it was great! Looking forward to the Christmas Special - hope it is

Spoiler:

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Nick Barlow wrote:Umm...at the risk of starting something, I thought it was rather poor...and by borrowing the ending of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure to get the Doctor out of the Pandorica, there'll be a lot of people asking in the future why the Doctor can't travel back into the past to save himself every time now.

To be fair, that's answered in the episode itself, as the Doctor mentions how, because they're in a bottle universe that's only two thousand years old and consists of one planet, usual rules don't apply.

Not that the Blinovich Limiation Effect actually made sense in the first place!

Lucy McGough wrote:

Nick Barlow wrote:Umm...at the risk of starting something, I thought it was rather poor...and by borrowing the ending of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure to get the Doctor out of the Pandorica, there'll be a lot of people asking in the future why the Doctor can't travel back into the past to save himself every time now.

My excuse (or "fan-generated continuity," if you prefer) is that the Tardis exploding made time go wobbly, which temporarily negated the Blinovitch limitation effect. You can only travel back in time to save yourself in the aftermath of a Tardis explosion.

The problem with that - and I'm not arguing with it as an explanation for this story - is that once you've breached that wall, it starts becoming easy to invent other reasons for doing it in the future. Next time it's because the Tardis is about to explode, then it just becomes an easy get-out clause that allows you to do some clever-clever plotting, but removes a lot of potential threat.

Nick Barlow wrote:The problem with that - and I'm not arguing with it as an explanation for this story - is that once you've breached that wall, it starts becoming easy to invent other reasons for doing it in the future. Next time it's because the Tardis is about to explode, then it just becomes an easy get-out clause that allows you to do some clever-clever plotting, but removes a lot of potential threat.

Then hopefully Moffat won't do it any more. It should be strictly for the aftermath of exploding Tardises!

Nick Barlow wrote:

Lucy McGough wrote:

Nick Barlow wrote:Umm...at the risk of starting something, I thought it was rather poor...and by borrowing the ending of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure to get the Doctor out of the Pandorica, there'll be a lot of people asking in the future why the Doctor can't travel back into the past to save himself every time now.

My excuse (or "fan-generated continuity," if you prefer) is that the Tardis exploding made time go wobbly, which temporarily negated the Blinovitch limitation effect. You can only travel back in time to save yourself in the aftermath of a Tardis explosion.

The problem with that - and I'm not arguing with it as an explanation for this story - is that once you've breached that wall, it starts becoming easy to invent other reasons for doing it in the future. Next time it's because the Tardis is about to explode, then it just becomes an easy get-out clause that allows you to do some clever-clever plotting, but removes a lot of potential threat.

But wasn't that the argument against the end of Parting of the Ways five years ago? That, if the owner of a Tardis is in danger, then simply open up the Tardis, stare into the vortex, and become a god?

And that's never come back again.

As I said above, the messing round in time occurred after the universe ended, and on one lone planet that was dying. The normal rules didn't apply.

Lucy McGough wrote:Anyway, makes sense that an exploding Tardis would make time go all weird and make normal rules not apply.

I think we've being saying for a long time that the finale would be wibbly wobbly timey wimey. I'm sure Moff has looked forward to fully exploring his concept for a long time now.

So, we know that River ends up back in the storm cage after this, but how?

The Co=Ordinator wrote:I think we've being saying for a long time that the finale would be wibbly wobbly timey wimey. I'm sure Moff has looked forward to fully exploring his concept for a long time now.

Exactly! This is exactly what a show about time travel should be doing.

i really enjoyed it but can totally understand where dalekjim is coming from- you could certainly think it was a bit smug or self indulgent. i didn't really mind it though.

i'm a bit upset that outpost wrinkly has got a bit nasty though. whatever next?

barnaby morbius wrote:i really enjoyed it but can totally understand where dalekjim is coming from- you could certainly think it was a bit smug or self indulgent. i didn't really mind it though.

i'm a bit upset that outpost wrinkly has got a bit nasty though. whatever next?

Yeah, it's really depressing

Oh, and another thing - I like the new Dalek paradigm. So there.

Gave it a 5.

Loved it.

I'd swear that M.S. was channelling Hartnell in the scene in Amelia's bedroom.

The only thing that's got me wondering is how come River turned up at the wedding with the empty diary?


Please, please, please don't let River be the embodiment of the Tardis.

One more thought - so Rory's badge was just a continuity error?