Rate "The Big Bang"

Aspadistra wrote:I'd swear that M.S. was channelling Hartnell in the scene in Amelia's bedroom.

OMG, I thought the same thing!

Aspadistra wrote:so Rory's badge was just a continuity error?

I still don't buy that. There's a lot more to come out next season.

The Co=Ordinator wrote:

Aspadistra wrote:so Rory's badge was just a continuity error?

I still don't buy that. There's a lot more to come out next season.

I'd certainly be very pleased if it turned out that wily old Moffat had planned the whole thing.

I still can't believe such a huge, illogical & nonsensical error could occur.

So, umm, Omega next year then?

Um. No.

Not until I've actually watched some classic series episodes with him in.

Lucy McGough wrote:Not until I've actually watched some classic series episodes with him in.

don't bother with arc of infinity- it's bollocks!

DalekJim wrote:Ack, I honestly thought I'd enjoy it too as the ending of last week's was brilliant. i dunno if I can even face going on GB, I'm gonna get torn to shreds aren't I?

I really can't believe how utterly horrible I found that. I've been critical of The Moff but that was just.. I just feel miserable now.

It is precisely because that happens in the forum you mentioned that I will never visit it again.. If that is your opinion, then you are entitled to it.. Not everyone can be pleased by everything, and if you didn't like it, then your view should be respected along with everyone else's..
Personally I loved it, and think it fully came up to expectations..

The Co=Ordinator wrote:I found parts of that quite beautiful.

So did I..

I very much enjoyed it - indeed for the first time in five years, I thought the second episode improved the first. I especially enjoyed The Doctor Dancing. There were bits of the narrative that I thought contained illogical leaps, but that's something I should be used to in Who...

Though I still can't stand River Song. I know that something intelligent might be coming our way regarding her storyline, but I'm getting a bit irritated waiting for it.

Gosh, that was so emotionally uninvolving compared to an RTD finale.

And the voice? 'Silence will fall'. Who was that?

By the sounds of it we shall be finding out next year.

Well, I really enjoyed that despite pretty-much nothing happening in it. Probably would have enjoyed it more if I'd never seen Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey, but one can't have everything. The fez and mop combo was indeed cool and, although horribly telegraphed, the TARDIS wedding-rhyme might have made me punch the air should I be susceptible to such things.

Interesting, also, to see Smith not being fantastic for once (his 'death' scene with Amy in the Pandorica) - reminds you how utterly ace he usually is.

And I want Amelia in the TARDIS - she's brilliant!

In summary - lightweight nonsense, showered with panache. Expect silence later.

And the rating:

'The Eleventh Hour' - seven out of ten
'The Beast Below' - three out of ten
'Victory of the Daleks' - two out of ten
'The Time of Angels' - seven out of ten
'Flesh and Stone' - four out of ten
'The Vampires of Venice' - four out of ten
'Amy's Choice' - seven out of ten
'The Hungry Earth' - five out of ten
'Cold Blood' - four out of ten
'Vincent and the Doctor' - seven out of ten
'The Lodger' - seven out of ten
'The Pandorica Opens' - six out of ten
'The Big Bang' - five out of ten

.......

Still no desire to watch it again. I admire it's cleverness, but that's it. You think they might have got some emotion out of Amy's parents returning, but no. That's the worse series finale since the show came back.

For me, I've always found that when Doctor Who works best, it's when the 'quiet' moments are at least as significant as the big, explosive, CGI-laden 'loud' moments.

Remember the ninth Doctor having that dinner conversation with the Slitheen in her human costume about crime and punishment in Boomtown? Remember the tenth Doctor discussing faith as he's being lowered into the pit by Ida in The Satan Pit? Or John Smith's struggling to come to terms with the notion that he is the Doctor in Human Nature?

The scene that did that for me in The Big Bang was Matt Smith's transchannelling of Hartnell in his "no regrets" speach to little Amelia, the girl who waited, as he tucks her into bed:

"You'll dream about that box. It'll never leave you. Big and little, at the same time. Brand new and ancient, and the bluest blue ever. And the times we had eh? Would've had. Never had. In your dreams they'll still be there. The Doctor and Amy Pond and the days that never came."

However mad and timey-whimey, out of order the rest of the story might have been, that moment made the story for me. It came just before the Doctor accepted his fate and walked off to be sealed behind the cracks, destined to be forgotten. Wonderfully done.

Lucy McGough wrote:Seriously, mate, stay away. There are a lot of tossers on the internet, and most of them are members of GB.

Hello, tosser here.

I can see why The Big Bang would be a disappointing mess to some people. If you watch too closely, the whole idea of memory being able to bring things back is nonsense and we didn't get the finale we had been expecting where all of the loose ends were nicely resolved.

I've got to say though that I just enjoyed it as a set of funny, clever scenes and I'm fine that they didn't feel the need to pull out all the stops, crank it up to eleven, and go for the bombast.

Rich Flair wrote:Still no desire to watch it again. I admire it's cleverness, but that's it. You think they might have got some emotion out of Amy's parents returning, but no. That's the worse series finale since the show came back.

i've liked this series (on the whole) but i've not rewatched any episodes yet...maybe i'll like em more next time round?

horrible. 1/5. utter poo.

the most inescapable perfect prison in the universe, specially designed to contain the doctor (why not just f*** kill him? no answer? not even a throwaway bs explanation? oh well, guess somebody was feeling a bit lazy ...), with all of his capabilities in mind ... and how does he get out? by using the sonic screwdriver.

Hello veeps.

Veiled Prophet wrote:the most inescapable perfect prison in the universe, specially designed to contain the doctor (why not just f*** kill him? no answer? not even a throwaway bs explanation? oh well, guess somebody was feeling a bit lazy ...), with all of his capabilities in mind ... and how does he get out? by using the sonic screwdriver.

Which should have been impossible, because it was deadlocked.

Veiled Prophet wrote:the most inescapable perfect prison in the universe, specially designed to contain the doctor (why not just f*** kill him? no answer? not even a throwaway bs explanation? oh well, guess somebody was feeling a bit lazy ...), with all of his capabilities in mind ... and how does he get out? by using the sonic screwdriver.

The BS explanation is probably coming next year. I think somebody upthread mentioned that this is supposed to be a two-year story arc. Presumably the real menace--yet to be revealed--put the Legion of Doom up to the cockamamie scheme.

Yes, it's a little lazy to fall back on the sonic. I did have high hopes that we'd be seeing less of it this year after the Doctor made a point of mentioning that he'd saved the day without it in the 11th Hour. Still, the Pandorica was supposed to be easy to open from the outside.

Besides, the real Pandorica opening was back at museum where a little Scottish girl just had to touch it. Oh wait, that was a bit of a hand wave, that genetic print jiggery pokery, wasn't it?

Dammit, you've got me paying attention to the details now.

I'm going back to my shallow Big Bang enjoyment trance.

Fezzes are cool.
Om.
Something blue.
Om.